It’s sort of a rambling post, but it probably communicates a lot of what many men are thinking, but not willing to express themselves.
From the conclusion:
Depending where you live, there are still plenty of nice American girls who want nothing to do with radical feminism. These girls want to get married and have families just like you do. Sure, odds are you’ll probably wind up getting raped in divorce court someday and losing it all, but the risk might be worth it. While they may not be as reliably submissive as their third world counterparts, American women at least speak the same language as you, grew up learning about the same heroes and possibly will have even watched the same cartoons as children(unless there’s a huge age difference and you’re robbing the cradle, in which case… good for you.) For low time preference individuals, the bond of shared history and common ancestry is too strong to be broken by the frivolity of modern feminist brainwashing and “interracial male bonding sessions.” At least, we hope it is, for the sake of our children and the world they will have to live in. Short of a massive alien invasion or diabolical female plot to take over the world, that’s unlikely to change.
Something like this has generally kept me away from expatriation over the last several years.
Part of it has to do with the fact that as much as I sometimes dislike American culture and politics, it’s still mine. This might be, also, a similar impulse keeps other people in unfathomably terrible and lowly little countries around the world.
I can’t really say that I’ve ever been that tempted by foreign women. Even when I was a good progressive about race, I just never felt much of any xenophilia. It’s really about the hair for me.
Xenophobe goes on to say:
The thing is, I simply don’t hate feminists enough to embrace multiculturalism. While radfems like to talk tough, at the end of the day they are more of a nuisance than anything. As soon as we collectively decide we’ve had enough of their crap, we can put them in their place whenever we feel like it.
Although feminists occupy many places of influence, in the world of everyday people, they have almost no influence. They influence the legal structure and the ambient culture, but most women that you meet about town have no inkling of real feminism beyond maybe a class or two that they attended in college. They exist in larger numbers in the major cities, but even there, they’re not all that prevalent in an absolute sense.
Most Americans, even among whites, don’t attend college. They receive little strong indoctrination. Even those that go to ‘good schools’ can be talked into or out of anything if you’re glib and persuasive enough.
The larger problems come from parenting, moral values, social groups, and expectations. While it may be trivial to argue most women into anything you want her to believe as soon as you have her hooked, it’s not nearly so easy to get that same person to actually be all that useful as someone who could be an effective wife and mother. And after the marriage, she has every legal incentive to cook your goose in court.
Most of them, even the ones with nominal religious belief, have been partying (a funny euphemism) since their early teens or before. The lifelong acculturation that used to go in to producing cooperative family life is not present any longer. For that matter, neither is the career orientation or work ethic that used to be instilled into American men. Standards have declined across the board.
It’s less the ideology, and more the passive absorbers of the ideology who cause the problems for most people. Those people have to be the ones whom you harden against the message, more so than angling to debate the people creating that message. It’s less the ideologue, and more the girl who can’t cook and has bad manners. The latter is endemic. The former is a tiny, loud minority.
B.W. Rabbit says
Thanks for the link. Appreciate your thoughtful analysis as well. I’m actually not all that new to neoreaction. In another life, I’ve been hanging around Dark Enlightenment and AltRight circles for several years. I just created this persona and blog a few months ago so I could write more “honestly” about certain issues and become more active in networking with people. Hopefully when I get doxxed I can start linking to my older writings/projects and get some cross identity promotion going.
I also just want to clarify that when I’m speaking of modern feminism in this piece, it’s within the context of a “lesser of two evils.” I don’t want anyone to think I don’t recognize the damage feminism does to a society. I’m strictly looking at it in those circumstances where men are faced with having to choose between embracing feminist women of their own kind vs siding with anti-feminist men of other races/cultures etc. This was of course inspired by the manosphere dust up over the same issue.
If a city like Los Angeles is merely filled with feminists, it would be much easier to take back someday than if it is overrun with hordes of armed immigrant gangs. It is a crappy choice. I suppose it turns out that radical feminism affects race relations by revealing the diversity of priorities among men.
henrydampier says
I would suggest just leaving LA and cities like it. People are different in the other states. A lot of what is said online about women applies more to young, educated, striver girls in the cities.
In flyover country there are a lot of families and personality types that you would might otherwise have believed to be extinct in the US.
I would not be all that concerned about knocking out immigrant gangs (if such a thing happened) down the road. It’s more about figuring out a workable compromise that doesn’t involve commanding men to go get henpecked for the rest of their lives.
Toddy Cat says
“As soon as we collectively decide we’ve had enough of their crap, we can put them in their place whenever we feel like it.”
Agreed, but we had damned well better decide that we feel like it, and damned soon. It’s kind of like an alcoholic saying that he can quit any time he wants to. It’s probably true, but it gets a little harder every year, and you can keep saying that until you die of cirrhosis. “He could have quit any time he wanted” is a Hell of a thing to have on a tombstone, at either the personal or societal level. As someone said on another site, “coulda, shoulda, woulda, mighta, oughta” is going to be the death of Western culture.
By the way, Mr. Rabbit, come to the Plains states. There are lots of really pretty girls out here, with fairly traditional values. Yeah, we’re affected by the rot like everywhere else, but it’s certainly better than the freakshow on the coasts.
henrydampier says
Sure — but the boomers would never do it, because they need to keep up the pretense that the younger generation will be funding the unfundable entitlement programs.
Rolling back feminism means rolling back the Great Society. The older generations would die before voting away their rights to the American treasury.
Toddy Cat says
“The older generations would die before voting away their rights to the American treasury. ”
As someone that you would think of as an “older American” I’d like to think that you were wrong about that – but you probably aren’t . Which is ironic, considering that most of those people aren’t going to get anything anyway, after inflation is taken into account. I remember C.S. Lewis commented that it was the eventual goal of Satan to have humans sell their souls, and give them nothing for it. Looks like we’re getting there pretty quickly…
henrydampier says
Of course — about 40% of this blog’s readers are over 45. It’s just at larger scale, few in those age groups think that way.
henrydampier says
Or rather, software modeling tells me that this blog’s readers are… heh, heh…